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    Amateur to Impi..

    So the idea is that a buddy and I will be entering the bronze class at the Impi Original in October. I have read all the posts on the forum regarding the previous events, and understand we are in for a few hard days in the Kzn rocks.

    We both basically started riding again in Feb this year so we are nowhere near being called advanced riders, more like optimistic intermediates. I stay around Pretoria and my main training grounds are the Mamelodi koppies where I get on Ok for the most part. My friend stays in Amanzintoti and rides the intermediate tech outrides with the Bike Shack guys around the valleys there.

    Fitness and bike prep are the two aspects weighing most heavily on my mind. Enduro riding is not a cheap sport by and stretch of the imagination and prepping for an event like the Impi on a budget is going to be a challenge, especially since Iím not a wizz with a spanner (learning the basics though). Training in the tech means a new rear tire at least every 3-4 rides, add to that general consumables and it all adds up pretty fast. I also need to look at some other maintenance issues like bearings all round, break pads front and back, chain & sprockets etc. With limited disposable income in a month it becomes quite interesting.

    Next up is fitness: I am pretty unfit still, but can do 3-4 hours in the intermediate tech before I feel like Iím going to die, but this is at a comfortable pace with rests worked in when I feel like it, Iím sure racing is something way different. Iíve started some additional cardio training and can run around 5km comfortably (at least twice a week) and Iím trying to ride tech for minimum 3 hours every weekend. When the days get a bit longer I will hopefully manage to fit in a few laps around the Mamarock track after work once a week.

    The purpose of this post is to gather as much Info, tips, tricks, advice and motivation as possible leading up to the ride. Anything you guys can suggest training and maintenance wise will be appreciated.
    My head tells me, dude youíre not ready but my heart says fuck it, go give it your best shot.

    Dundee happens to be my home town; we are going down there for a training ride with some of the locals who are also doing the Impiís over the weekend of the 24th of August. Apparently we will be riding some very similar terrain than what can be expected during the actual Impi, so should be a good opportunity to determine our level of prep thus far and get an idea for the level of tech we need to train towards.

    Shot alot guys, looking forward to hearing back and chatting!

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    On the budget:
    You honestly dont need a new rear tyre every 3-4 rides. I train with shitty tyres that lasts and save the gummies for the events.
    The rest of the stuff you mentioned should anyway be part of your normal maintenance routine.

    On the fitness side:
    It all depends on skill level. It seems like you are active enough so dont stress about it.
    Treat the event like a social and go out with friends and ride it.
    You will survive it and you will have fun.

    Dont over think or over spend on stuff. Its just another ride

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    No jokes but bronze is really catering for beginners. The loop will be less than 70km in total and you will do very little technical stuff. Seen ladies on 85's /230ís and freerides do it to bw back in time for lunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pom17 View Post
    On the budget:
    You honestly dont need a new rear tyre every 3-4 rides. I train with shitty tyres that lasts and save the gummies for the events.
    The rest of the stuff you mentioned should anyway be part of your normal maintenance routine.

    On the fitness side:
    It all depends on skill level. It seems like you are active enough so dont stress about it.
    Treat the event like a social and go out with friends and ride it.
    You will survive it and you will have fun.

    Dont over think or over spend on stuff. Its just another ride
    Thats good advice, I remember going to my first race, happened to be a national enduro in Matatiele, I Way over thought it, and took way too many "spares" ect and went crazy with Bike prep. its not needed... go and enjoy and go at your own pace,
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    One thing to note is that October is pretty hot in KZN.
    Makes it a different ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willz View Post
    So the idea is that a buddy and I will be entering the bronze class at the Impi Original in October. I have read all the posts on the forum regarding the previous events, and understand we are in for a few hard days in the Kzn rocks.

    We both basically started riding again in Feb this year so we are nowhere near being called advanced riders, more like optimistic intermediates. I stay around Pretoria and my main training grounds are the Mamelodi koppies where I get on Ok for the most part. My friend stays in Amanzintoti and rides the intermediate tech outrides with the Bike Shack guys around the valleys there.

    Fitness and bike prep are the two aspects weighing most heavily on my mind. Enduro riding is not a cheap sport by and stretch of the imagination and prepping for an event like the Impi on a budget is going to be a challenge, especially since I’m not a wizz with a spanner (learning the basics though). Training in the tech means a new rear tire at least every 3-4 rides, add to that general consumables and it all adds up pretty fast. I also need to look at some other maintenance issues like bearings all round, break pads front and back, chain & sprockets etc. With limited disposable income in a month it becomes quite interesting.

    Next up is fitness: I am pretty unfit still, but can do 3-4 hours in the intermediate tech before I feel like I’m going to die, but this is at a comfortable pace with rests worked in when I feel like it, I’m sure racing is something way different. I’ve started some additional cardio training and can run around 5km comfortably (at least twice a week) and I’m trying to ride tech for minimum 3 hours every weekend. When the days get a bit longer I will hopefully manage to fit in a few laps around the Mamarock track after work once a week.

    The purpose of this post is to gather as much Info, tips, tricks, advice and motivation as possible leading up to the ride. Anything you guys can suggest training and maintenance wise will be appreciated.
    My head tells me, dude you’re not ready but my heart says fuck it, go give it your best shot.

    Dundee happens to be my home town; we are going down there for a training ride with some of the locals who are also doing the Impi’s over the weekend of the 24th of August. Apparently we will be riding some very similar terrain than what can be expected during the actual Impi, so should be a good opportunity to determine our level of prep thus far and get an idea for the level of tech we need to train towards.

    Shot alot guys, looking forward to hearing back and chatting!
    Like the others have said, dont overthink it. But some extra fitness is never a bad idea. Also agree with not having to have new tyres the whole time, save that for the actual event and train/ride with old shitty ones rather.

    As the mentioned it will be hot, so I would suggest when you do your week end rides, dress a bit hotter to condition yourself.

    It sounds like you get quite a bit of saddle time. I would suggest maybe increasing the running slightly where you can and then just throw in some basic body weight work, push ups, pull ups, planking etc.

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    Thanks for all the replies guys. Maybe I am overthinking it and just need to go and give it a shot. I see they are also running an Iron class this year for the October event so if all else fails we can drop a class and still enjoy.

    Some more questions.

    Im running heavy duty tubes with slime, am I pushing my like here or should I bite the bullet and install a moose...at the back?

    GPS: Is there a company one can rent a GPS from for a few days not sure I want to spend the money on one right now if im not going to be using it all that often?

    In the meantime I'll keep working on the fitness and try to get as much saddle time in as possible.

    Looking forward to go ride in Dundee at the end of the month, will be a good measure of how prepared we are!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willz View Post
    Thanks for all the replies guys. Maybe I am overthinking it and just need to go and give it a shot. I see they are also running an Iron class this year for the October event so if all else fails we can drop a class and still enjoy.

    Some more questions.

    Im running heavy duty tubes with slime, am I pushing my like here or should I bite the bullet and install a moose...at the back?

    GPS: Is there a company one can rent a GPS from for a few days not sure I want to spend the money on one right now if im not going to be using it all that often?

    In the meantime I'll keep working on the fitness and try to get as much saddle time in as possible.

    Looking forward to go ride in Dundee at the end of the month, will be a good measure of how prepared we are!
    Mousses:
    Why spend money on an event where you can be left stranded within 10km of the start?
    Mousses will last you more than a year or 150hr of riding.
    Learn to lube and change them yourself. It is easier than most think and quick once you get the hang of it.
    Easier than changing a tyre with tubes atleast.
    So they are not that expensive if you consider the life they give you, just maintain them (lube every 10hrs depending on the type of riding you do)

    GPS:
    Doubt you will find someone to rent it from.
    Look for a 2nd hand one, there are plenty and go for the Etrex 10, they like R2k new. Or use a friends

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    Mooses would be 1st price and while in the long term they are definitely an investment worth making not least for the piece of mind they give you while riding. But: A Moose and a new rear will set me back R2500, GPS R2000 , Entry fee R1900, thats R6400 before even thinking about traveling down, accommodation, food and other ods and ends.

    Damm this is an expensive sport...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willz View Post
    Mooses would be 1st price and while in the long term they are definitely an investment worth making not least for the piece of mind they give you while riding. But: A Moose and a new rear will set me back R2500, GPS R2000 , Entry fee R1900, thats R6400 before even thinking about traveling down, accommodation, food and other ods and ends.

    Damm this is an expensive sport...
    Just remember, these two expenses are not only for that race, but for many more rides/ races etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willz View Post
    Mooses would be 1st price and while in the long term they are definitely an investment worth making not least for the piece of mind they give you while riding. But: A Moose and a new rear will set me back R2500, GPS R2000 , Entry fee R1900, thats R6400 before even thinking about traveling down, accommodation, food and other ods and ends.

    Damm this is an expensive sport...
    if you know how to plug a tire i would normally say tubliss, but my tire looked like it had dreadlocks after i was finished plugging it at the last impi i did (original venue) after all the thorns there so probably best to go with a mousse, there are lots of thorns in that area

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    I did 2 x Amateur Budget impi's

    Used the same mousse (my Mousse lasted me little bit longer than a year so it was definatley worth the initial cost) (140 Michelin bib mousse, in 140 size tyre, it think matching tyre and mousse size helped it to last much longer, but for the first 3-4 months it was like riding a 3 bar tyre, the last 2 months it was perfect)

    I split transport and accomodation costs with my crew so that saved a lot.
    And for training i used BATT tyres which cost me about 600 a tyre, and i like to think these tyres helped me get and understand how to grip, and they lasted very long. For the race i upgraded to a yellow stripe mitas which lasted me both days plus some training.

    You can make this sport as expensive as you want, but you dont have to change tyres everyday.

    The inital layout costs like Mousse and GPS kit etc is a lot, but if you shop around you can find bargains, i bought a etrex 30 for 1500, all my kit except helmet was 2nd hand new stuff (facebook and olx) gloves i bought from bargain bins, or imported from aliexpress.
    GPS i saw as a investmend for both adventure bike, enduro bike and 4x4ing, also calculating property sizes etc. Mapsource and Basecamp are handy tools if you get the swing of it.
    Once you start doing your own maintenance you also save a lot.

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    As with any sport or hobby that you enjoy things can get pricey really quickly.

    If you are a Joh-begger. I have an etrex 20 + Bracket for you to borrow FREE OF CHARGE. Just collect and return in same condition. If it breaks or the screen gets really badly scratched etc. Then you have bought yourself a near new etrex with a defect if you know what I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swazi_matt View Post
    if you know how to plug a tire i would normally say tubliss, but my tire looked like it had dreadlocks after i was finished plugging it at the last impi i did (original venue) after all the thorns there so probably best to go with a mousse, there are lots of thorns in that area
    Mmm. Sounds like mooses are going have to be a must have then. I read on the Impi Fb page they moving the route a little , basically back to the 2015 routes, specifically because there are apparently less thorns here.

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    The original impi, Roar se drif/Elandsheim is p for proper. Best riding and route setup that side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onderbroek View Post
    I did 2 x Amateur Budget impi's

    Used the same mousse (my Mousse lasted me little bit longer than a year so it was definatley worth the initial cost) (140 Michelin bib mousse, in 140 size tyre, it think matching tyre and mousse size helped it to last much longer, but for the first 3-4 months it was like riding a 3 bar tyre, the last 2 months it was perfect)

    I split transport and accomodation costs with my crew so that saved a lot.
    And for training i used BATT tyres which cost me about 600 a tyre, and i like to think these tyres helped me get and understand how to grip, and they lasted very long. For the race i upgraded to a yellow stripe mitas which lasted me both days plus some training.

    You can make this sport as expensive as you want, but you dont have to change tyres everyday.

    The inital layout costs like Mousse and GPS kit etc is a lot, but if you shop around you can find bargains, i bought a etrex 30 for 1500, all my kit except helmet was 2nd hand new stuff (facebook and olx) gloves i bought from bargain bins, or imported from aliexpress.
    GPS i saw as a investmend for both adventure bike, enduro bike and 4x4ing, also calculating property sizes etc. Mapsource and Basecamp are handy tools if you get the swing of it.
    Once you start doing your own maintenance you also save a lot.

    my 2c
    I have to agree with the Cheap tyres for training(also it is amazing what it can teach you about finding grip) and the second hand gear, this is the way to go if you want to enjoy the sport on a budget. Definitely join guys going to the race from your area. it saves a ton of money for everyone and makes it easier when you pit together.
    Lastly : LEARN TO DO YOUR OWN MAINTENANCE!!! this will be your biggest saving guaranteed. Only Factory sponsored riders can afford to have a mechanic work on their bike full time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tman21 View Post
    As with any sport or hobby that you enjoy things can get pricey really quickly.

    If you are a Joh-begger. I have an etrex 20 + Bracket for you to borrow FREE OF CHARGE. Just collect and return in same condition. If it breaks or the screen gets really badly scratched etc. Then you have bought yourself a near new etrex with a defect if you know what I mean.

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    @Willz, En as jy van Dundee af is saam met wie gaan jy ry? Nikki en Derrick?
    You're right shit adds up and everything costs money, its an unavoidable part of the lifestyle we've chosen. Its good in a way, dirt biking has become the reason why Id rather stay at home taking it easy on a Friday night while other friends are still busy with old habits.

    Thank you very much for the offer of the GPS, I will definitely take it up. I break I pay, will also compensate with a bottle and a big bag of regte egte, geelvet hou jou bek en vreet, Noord Natal biltong. Im from Pretoria so a mission to Jozi not a problem.

    Yip Nikki is one toergids vir ons klein training ride in Dundee einde van die maand....klink of die man lelike planne het vir ons daai naweek..

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    Haha, as die groot seun voor ry sal jy baie blaaskans he!

    Send me a whatsapp and we can arrange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StefanKTM View Post
    I have to agree with the Cheap tyres for training(also it is amazing what it can teach you about finding grip) and the second hand gear, this is the way to go if you want to enjoy the sport on a budget. Definitely join guys going to the race from your area. it saves a ton of money for everyone and makes it easier when you pit together.
    Lastly : LEARN TO DO YOUR OWN MAINTENANCE!!! this will be your biggest saving guaranteed. Only Factory sponsored riders can afford to have a mechanic work on their bike full time.
    Thanks for the feedback guys, keep it coming its good to hear from guys who have done it and are speaking out of experience. I'm currently testing the Leader Tread retreads for training, have gotten 3 decent rides out of a Midsoft so far and I think it might have one or two rides left in it, grip is much better than the Battlecross I had on before it but it does seem to run of much quicker. (its obviously a softer compound). Going to slap a super gummi on for riding in Dundee and see how that goes.

    I'm working on improving my skills with the spanners in the maintenance department so expect plenty stupid technical questions coming up soon!
    @Tman21 , thanks again for the offer on the GPS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willz View Post
    Thanks for the feedback guys, keep it coming its good to hear from guys who have done it and are speaking out of experience. I'm currently testing the Leader Tread retreads for training, have gotten 3 decent rides out of a Midsoft so far and I think it might have one or two rides left in it, grip is much better than the Battlecross I had on before it but it does seem to run of much quicker. (its obviously a softer compound). Going to slap a super gummi on for riding in Dundee and see how that goes.

    I'm working on improving my skills with the spanners in the maintenance department so expect plenty stupid technical questions coming up soon!
    @Tman21 , thanks again for the offer on the GPS!
    Even though its Natal, its Northern KZN and still very dry out there. Where the sticky tyre will work in the rocks it wont be ideal everywhere and also wear down really quick. Try something like a mitchelin medium, its not super soft but its not hard either. Have only used one of them and would say its not a bad all rounder as a winter tyre and in dry conditions and it should outlast the super soft compounds.
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